Liz Here with a Domestic Blog.
Recently I posted a photo on Facebook of Mike sitting down to breakfast in our RV. Dear friend, Dr. Diane Buffalin commented on our trailer’s spaciousness. Diane, thank you for your interest. This blog is to explain RV space. Our RV has one slide-out. It is a feature that widens our living space by 4 feet, ample floor space for sit-ups, push-ups, stretches, Yoga or for just walking inbetween the pullout sofa, dinette set and kitchen. We retract the slide-out when we tow the trailer.
Slide-outs weigh around 1000 pounds. Our trailer’s interior is 300 square feet but with lots of head room. Gross weight is 8500 pounds total giving us 12 MPG when towing and 16 when not towing. Many RVs are longer and include many more slide outs. Imagine a slide-out for children. Imagine a bedroom slide-out for lots of clothes. We store our out-of-season clothes under our bed with its most comfortable memory foam mattress. Top end is a deluxe late model silver and black greyhound-bus-type motor home with 3 slide-outs and a balcony. Behind the sliding doors to the balcony was a kitchen with a wet bar.
We are in Baker’s Hole in West Yellowstone, Montana for 16 days. A year ago I tried several times to book a campsite on-line in Yellowstone. To express my gratitude to Mike for our overseas travel, a reservation would demonstrate that our RV dream trip was shared and just as real as our overseas trip. But Yellowstone’s reservation website requires the length of our RV and truck and details about amperage and dumping. The price of the best Yellowstone campsite for an RV is over $600 per week. What if in a year we did not buy a 5th wheel and truck? I just did not have the nerve to reserve a camp site in July 2011, a year ahead of time. I give Mike credit for delaying gratification for all these months until we finally arrived here, the place where his inner child really dreamed to be.
While in Custer State Park in South Dakota Mike struck up rapport with a retired trucker who told Mike about Baker’s Hole, a wonderful campsite. First-come, first-serve with a 16 day limit. In the Gallatin National Forest Mike’s senior pass is recognized here. Cost is $14 per night including electricity. With potable water and 2 good smelling vault toilets a short walk away we do not need to dump and fill our water more than once a week. With electricity included in most national parks we use air conditioning liberally. A/C was a blessing during the heat wave when we were in South Dakota. Here Yellowstone mornings are so cool that we run our propane furnace to take out the chill. Our trailer’s polar package means more warmth due to superior insulation.
The RV kitchen holds most everything any kitchen holds except obviously with a smaller refrigerator, 3 burner gas stove (instead of 4), a tiny oven and no dishwasher or garbage disposal. We carry a few thin and light dishes. Pots, pans, utensils, and storage containers have hardly changed. Campsite garbage containers are massive to keep out bears. Do not throw out food waste here! Not only to keep bears away but because in the Black Hills we learned that if a prairie dogs eats a salt cracker, the salt will kill the prairie dogs. Prairie dogs eat only grass and do not even drink water. Marmots live in Baker’s Hole and look cute like prairie dog.
Two 30 pound propane tanks power our range, refrigerator, hot water and heat. Unlike the standard 20 pound propane tanks for a BBQ that are simply exchanged, propane is pumped into a 30 pound tank. It costs $28 to fill. Electric appliances reduce propane consumption but now that we know that propane lasts 3 weeks and is relatively inexpensive the urgency to go all electric is gone.
Our neighbors in Baker’s Hole are a married couple who are avid fishermen and who travel with a large muscled Siamese cat. In nice weather the cat lays out in a screen tent. Everyday people walk their dogs. Pets are totally integrated in the RV lifestyle. Baker’s Hole is a fish spawning area along the Madison River. We watch an otter swimming in the river in the evenings.
As Mike wrote in the beginning of this Blog we bought our 5th wheel from General RV. They have 10 locations in metro Detroit. They are a large 3rd generation dealer with the capacity to train novices like us. Mike knew fuel mileage mattered so we asked for ultra-light. A 2011 5th wheel ultra-light weighing 7000 pounds simply was not as homey or cozy as our 2008 weighing 8500 pounds. Did I fall for the oak cabinets honey color, the faux wall paper and nice window treatments? Yup. Did we pay too much ($17,500 before hitching) for 2008 used 5th wheel? Probably. But we have a dream to live. We made a perfectly imperfect purchase from a safe retailer in order to get started. If living in an RV becomes your dream then we would be flattered to advise you.
Our RV breakfast is just like our breakfast when we worked. Boil water in the kettle, prepare whatever fruit is in season and make toast. We’ve added a couple of eggs for more protein and more physical energy for hiking. I pack sandwiches and fill water bottles and off we drive. Instead of going to work in the office we see the sights, watch movies in visitor centers and listen to ranger talks. We think we do fine without a tour guide. Our biggest need for guidance is to how to avoid road construction. Most days we return to our RV home at the same time we got home when we worked. We keep our e-readers charged and really appreciate the additional books that Sean Thelen gave to Fred who passed them on to us.
We have XM radio in our truck with every station including raunchy humor, 3 NPR stations and Left, a dedicated liberal station. But in our trailer I usually listen to the local NPR station over our Bose stereo. In West Yellowstone we hear only the most unorthodox station from Brigham Young University in Idaho. Local news is scant and not always even broadcast. Robert Segal of All Thing’s Considered was cut off in mid-sentence for the BYU graduation’s invocation on a Friday night and the station was completely turned off the following Saturday and Sunday as far as I could tell. July 24 is Pioneer Day, the day the Brigham Young arrived in Salt Lake City. That day the first tune I heard was Dixie by the Canadian Brass followed by other rousing mostly classical music. No student broadcasters speak to listeners on Pioneer Day.
We have a campsite reserved on August 7 in Glacier National park. Since August is high season Glacier is mostly booked. We stay in 3 separate campsites, 2 at opposite ends of Glacier and one commercial no-name camp 9 miles from the front gate. Now I need to book campsites in Yosemite and Sequoia for next year and avoid the worry.
KOA is the premier campsite brand since they provide every possible amenity like cable TV, swimming pools, dog walks so they cost as much as a hotel. One couple arranges their family reunions in Devil’s Tower, Wy. They explained that the grandparents stay in the KOA for top dollar ($51 per night) while their children and grandchildren camp for $6 in the national parks without electricity and visit the grandparents for meals and to use the facilities, especially the pool.
To briefly contrast a 5th wheel with a motor home note that when we tow our 5th wheel we cannot cook. No stew can simmer in a crock pot and the refrigerator is off. Unlike in a motor home I cannot walk back and pour a drink or take a nap. One father with a motor home and children of all ages told them that they’d be on the road for several hours before they even woke up. Motor homes usually tow a car because motor homes are so cumbersome and get such poor fuel mileage. God help the driver when he needs to back up. Our truck has an extended cab which means that it has 4 doors and rear seats for passengers. Unlike in a larger crew cab the rear doors are not independent. Our 2007 Chevy truck is diesel and therefore gets better mileage than a gasoline engine. In cold weather we wait to see the diesel’s glow plug light go out. Unlike spark plugs, glow plugs need warming. Fondness for the truck is growing on Mike.
We pulled into a gas station just a half hour or so after this motor home burned up near Garyowen, Montana. An older lady with 3 dogs just lost her home. I am reassured that due to Mike’s good maintenance and careful attention that we will not suffer such a catastrophe.
Good Sam’s, an RV motor club forwards to our mail. Our address is
5715 Hwy 85 N. #1014
Crestview, Florida 32536.
Then our mail is forwarded to General Delivery as we request.
Liz’s cell# is now 248-496-7844. Delete 248-431-9586, my former GM work phone.
If you’d like to join us somewhere some time let us know. We will coordinate with you to meet your plane or car. To join up with us know that we follow the warm weather and visit mostly US national parks for now.
Note: This Christmas we will park our trailer in Florida and meet my mom and family to celebrate her 80th birthday in Disney World in Orlando.
Recently I posted a photo on Facebook of Mike sitting down to breakfast in our RV. Dear friend, Dr. Diane Buffalin commented on our trailer’s spaciousness. Diane, thank you for your interest. This blog is to explain RV space. Our RV has one slide-out. It is a feature that widens our living space by 4 feet, ample floor space for sit-ups, push-ups, stretches, Yoga or for just walking inbetween the pullout sofa, dinette set and kitchen. We retract the slide-out when we tow the trailer.
Mike at breakfast. Happy to be in Yellowstone. |
Dinette, wall unit and kitchen with view to bedroom |
View of Rear of RV |
Slide-outs weigh around 1000 pounds. Our trailer’s interior is 300 square feet but with lots of head room. Gross weight is 8500 pounds total giving us 12 MPG when towing and 16 when not towing. Many RVs are longer and include many more slide outs. Imagine a slide-out for children. Imagine a bedroom slide-out for lots of clothes. We store our out-of-season clothes under our bed with its most comfortable memory foam mattress. Top end is a deluxe late model silver and black greyhound-bus-type motor home with 3 slide-outs and a balcony. Behind the sliding doors to the balcony was a kitchen with a wet bar.
Neighbor's RV |
Our Keystone Cougar unhitched with slide-out open. |
Tent Camping is still a fine choice. |
We are in Baker’s Hole in West Yellowstone, Montana for 16 days. A year ago I tried several times to book a campsite on-line in Yellowstone. To express my gratitude to Mike for our overseas travel, a reservation would demonstrate that our RV dream trip was shared and just as real as our overseas trip. But Yellowstone’s reservation website requires the length of our RV and truck and details about amperage and dumping. The price of the best Yellowstone campsite for an RV is over $600 per week. What if in a year we did not buy a 5th wheel and truck? I just did not have the nerve to reserve a camp site in July 2011, a year ahead of time. I give Mike credit for delaying gratification for all these months until we finally arrived here, the place where his inner child really dreamed to be.
While in Custer State Park in South Dakota Mike struck up rapport with a retired trucker who told Mike about Baker’s Hole, a wonderful campsite. First-come, first-serve with a 16 day limit. In the Gallatin National Forest Mike’s senior pass is recognized here. Cost is $14 per night including electricity. With potable water and 2 good smelling vault toilets a short walk away we do not need to dump and fill our water more than once a week. With electricity included in most national parks we use air conditioning liberally. A/C was a blessing during the heat wave when we were in South Dakota. Here Yellowstone mornings are so cool that we run our propane furnace to take out the chill. Our trailer’s polar package means more warmth due to superior insulation.
Polar Package is why our RV is warmer than most. And designed to keep out mice and such. |
The RV kitchen holds most everything any kitchen holds except obviously with a smaller refrigerator, 3 burner gas stove (instead of 4), a tiny oven and no dishwasher or garbage disposal. We carry a few thin and light dishes. Pots, pans, utensils, and storage containers have hardly changed. Campsite garbage containers are massive to keep out bears. Do not throw out food waste here! Not only to keep bears away but because in the Black Hills we learned that if a prairie dogs eats a salt cracker, the salt will kill the prairie dogs. Prairie dogs eat only grass and do not even drink water. Marmots live in Baker’s Hole and look cute like prairie dog.
Breakfast Prep. |
Kitchen |
Two 30 pound propane tanks power our range, refrigerator, hot water and heat. Unlike the standard 20 pound propane tanks for a BBQ that are simply exchanged, propane is pumped into a 30 pound tank. It costs $28 to fill. Electric appliances reduce propane consumption but now that we know that propane lasts 3 weeks and is relatively inexpensive the urgency to go all electric is gone.
Our neighbors in Baker’s Hole are a married couple who are avid fishermen and who travel with a large muscled Siamese cat. In nice weather the cat lays out in a screen tent. Everyday people walk their dogs. Pets are totally integrated in the RV lifestyle. Baker’s Hole is a fish spawning area along the Madison River. We watch an otter swimming in the river in the evenings.
Otter in Madison River. Much more rare than elk or buffalo. |
A Pet loving RVer. |
As Mike wrote in the beginning of this Blog we bought our 5th wheel from General RV. They have 10 locations in metro Detroit. They are a large 3rd generation dealer with the capacity to train novices like us. Mike knew fuel mileage mattered so we asked for ultra-light. A 2011 5th wheel ultra-light weighing 7000 pounds simply was not as homey or cozy as our 2008 weighing 8500 pounds. Did I fall for the oak cabinets honey color, the faux wall paper and nice window treatments? Yup. Did we pay too much ($17,500 before hitching) for 2008 used 5th wheel? Probably. But we have a dream to live. We made a perfectly imperfect purchase from a safe retailer in order to get started. If living in an RV becomes your dream then we would be flattered to advise you.
Our RV breakfast is just like our breakfast when we worked. Boil water in the kettle, prepare whatever fruit is in season and make toast. We’ve added a couple of eggs for more protein and more physical energy for hiking. I pack sandwiches and fill water bottles and off we drive. Instead of going to work in the office we see the sights, watch movies in visitor centers and listen to ranger talks. We think we do fine without a tour guide. Our biggest need for guidance is to how to avoid road construction. Most days we return to our RV home at the same time we got home when we worked. We keep our e-readers charged and really appreciate the additional books that Sean Thelen gave to Fred who passed them on to us.
We have XM radio in our truck with every station including raunchy humor, 3 NPR stations and Left, a dedicated liberal station. But in our trailer I usually listen to the local NPR station over our Bose stereo. In West Yellowstone we hear only the most unorthodox station from Brigham Young University in Idaho. Local news is scant and not always even broadcast. Robert Segal of All Thing’s Considered was cut off in mid-sentence for the BYU graduation’s invocation on a Friday night and the station was completely turned off the following Saturday and Sunday as far as I could tell. July 24 is Pioneer Day, the day the Brigham Young arrived in Salt Lake City. That day the first tune I heard was Dixie by the Canadian Brass followed by other rousing mostly classical music. No student broadcasters speak to listeners on Pioneer Day.
We have a campsite reserved on August 7 in Glacier National park. Since August is high season Glacier is mostly booked. We stay in 3 separate campsites, 2 at opposite ends of Glacier and one commercial no-name camp 9 miles from the front gate. Now I need to book campsites in Yosemite and Sequoia for next year and avoid the worry.
KOA is the premier campsite brand since they provide every possible amenity like cable TV, swimming pools, dog walks so they cost as much as a hotel. One couple arranges their family reunions in Devil’s Tower, Wy. They explained that the grandparents stay in the KOA for top dollar ($51 per night) while their children and grandchildren camp for $6 in the national parks without electricity and visit the grandparents for meals and to use the facilities, especially the pool.
To briefly contrast a 5th wheel with a motor home note that when we tow our 5th wheel we cannot cook. No stew can simmer in a crock pot and the refrigerator is off. Unlike in a motor home I cannot walk back and pour a drink or take a nap. One father with a motor home and children of all ages told them that they’d be on the road for several hours before they even woke up. Motor homes usually tow a car because motor homes are so cumbersome and get such poor fuel mileage. God help the driver when he needs to back up. Our truck has an extended cab which means that it has 4 doors and rear seats for passengers. Unlike in a larger crew cab the rear doors are not independent. Our 2007 Chevy truck is diesel and therefore gets better mileage than a gasoline engine. In cold weather we wait to see the diesel’s glow plug light go out. Unlike spark plugs, glow plugs need warming. Fondness for the truck is growing on Mike.
We pulled into a gas station just a half hour or so after this motor home burned up near Garyowen, Montana. An older lady with 3 dogs just lost her home. I am reassured that due to Mike’s good maintenance and careful attention that we will not suffer such a catastrophe.
Burned up Motor home. |
Good Sam’s, an RV motor club forwards to our mail. Our address is
5715 Hwy 85 N. #1014
Crestview, Florida 32536.
Then our mail is forwarded to General Delivery as we request.
Liz’s cell# is now 248-496-7844. Delete 248-431-9586, my former GM work phone.
If you’d like to join us somewhere some time let us know. We will coordinate with you to meet your plane or car. To join up with us know that we follow the warm weather and visit mostly US national parks for now.
Note: This Christmas we will park our trailer in Florida and meet my mom and family to celebrate her 80th birthday in Disney World in Orlando.